![]() I would say that will translate into this show. JORNÉ: The universe definitely has its heroes and villains, but what I always liked about Maggie and Negan is that, as things evolved over time in The Walking Dead, the mothership show, not to nerd out, but with Maggie hanging Gregory in Season 9, and Negan’s arc and who we’ve seen him become, at times, has made the black and white picture of the universe and their relationship a lot grayer over time. GIMPLE: The reason it’s a show is because it's a very, very deep world with great characters. JORNÉ: And you’ll see how it’s shaped people too. It’s just a different civilization, or lack of civilization, that has persisted. But it isn’t like New York City is a character. It really brought to life all the possibilities that we have with these two characters being stuck together. What if they had to ally together? What if they’re stuck on an island together? What if they’re stuck, encased by buildings, and we just get smaller and smaller and smaller, until they are face to face. It’s hard to think of anywhere else they could’ve gone. ![]() It turns the dial up on what’s challenging about this cooperative effort. JORNÉ: If you think about it, there are these two characters that, if they’re forced together, and they are forced to work together, as you can tell from the teaser, and they go to a place that’s as crazy and claustrophobic and chaotic as New York, that just amps up. It wasn’t like, “Hey, let’s do a spinoff in New York. The New York element was not the first thing. JORNÉ: For me, the second I heard about a Maggie and Negan spinoff, I was like, “I’m all in.” To me, those are the characters that I was most excited to explore because there’s a lot of trauma and baggage between them that I think is compelling for a new show, even if not for the old show, alone. That’s the thing that I always appreciate with The Walking Dead universe. It’s really exciting, and there are a lot of surprises. There’s a lot of emotion, there’s a lot of baggage, and there’s a lot of trauma, but this is also a whole new world. JORNÉ: And I think in true The Walking Dead fashion, or true to the mothership and the way that Scott ran the show, the cool thing about this universe and this show is that all of that emotion gets to be the vehicle for this wild, cool, crazy ride. The way that Eli wrote it, the way that and played it, you can feel that history and that relationship in a scene, in a moment, and in a look. But to tell you the truth, it’s the kind of story that I think actually is an incredible utility to the audience nowadays and one that they can relate to, whether they’ve watched The Walking Dead or not. This is a very, very heightened version of that. GIMPLE: And I loved something you said on the panel, when they were asking about the pandemic, you were relating this show even more, just to the state of things in the country and looking at each other like enemies, yet we’ve gotta work with each other. How do you work with and cooperate with, and how do you trust, if you have to work with the person who murdered the person you loved most in this life? And vice versa for Negan, how do you work with the person whose husband you murdered? Right away, to me, I was excited to get messy with that unfinished business. Even if you strip away all the walkers and the apocalypse, even then, there’s a compelling story there. JORNÉ: To me, all the challenges that seem like they would be there between these characters in real life are the things that excite me, as a writer. That’s a story.” That’s the very kernel that we started with, and Eli took the kernel and popped that corn. A woman whose husband has been brutally murdered has to become the ally of the person who did it. GIMPLE: Back in the day, Carol almost didn’t make it, but I was very much about, “Well, what if this victim became the hero?” It wasn’t like, “Oh, it’s these steps and these steps and these steps.” Just talking about them, we were like, “Yeah, that’s a story. Collider: When did this start to happen? It seems crazy that you would end up here, where you have a show with two characters that you couldn’t possibly have thought would ever have ended up on the same show together.
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